Another Day, Another Typical Male Gun-Lover Perspective

11/1/2014 10:12 AM, Replying to Scotts’ G+ profile, image (above):

James M

Hi Scott. Thanks for the thought provoking image! hmm. I’m confused as to how to connect these things. Clearly she’s speaking of children in the quotation, not fetal or embryonic life. Is the photo collage message supposed to connect wanting these two things as inconsistent with reasoning, or inconsistent with a common logic derived within a sub culture?

Specifically, are you pointing out an inconsistency, or hypocritical behavior, between being comfortable with the legal choice of aborting a fetus and simultaneously wanting laws involving an assembled product, that is effecting the populations of people, who are already alive?

Her quotation appears clearly to be advocating a higher, highest, value among us for our children's lives. Not speaking at all, to the issue of a woman’s choice to terminate an embryonic or fetal life.  

If she’s like millions of women, she is capable of compartmentalizing born and living lives, and embryonic and fetal life, separately. Do you think women don’t do that?

I would also note that men often see your (apparent) perception of connecting these things as morally equivalent, and much more so than women see this connection. Observe the gender differences, in comments to this image, you’ll see this.

Earlier post, August, 21st, 2014: Same image, different location:

Erik

Clueless.

Jeff 

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Rick

Idiot 

Peter Yep. +Erin Thanks for that. 

Marty 

Effin hypocrite!

Eric 

Gotta love liberal logic. 

Mary 

Brainless.  

Adam 

I wonder if the shirt was supposed to say I had an abortion. I regret it...
Yes I'm playing the devil's advocate  ; P

Marty +Adam K 

nice thought but its Gloria Steinem...google her for your answer.

3D/Dova/Dawson 

Guns are necessary to keep order and a feeling of safety 

Brian

The hypocrisy of the left knows no limits.

Todd

If having a gun and ammunition would save my family, then we should consider it.

bobby

Thus is another case of a night of passion that should have ended in spit

James 

We should strongly consider allowing her to self abort!

Adam +Marty
Lols  : P

James P +James I'd pay to see that!

Stephen 

If deporting one irrelevant has been can make our country a better place then we should consider that! 

John 

Stupid contradiction. Not a fan of unstable people with guns, I am pro choice. Am against people who argue ignorantly.
I bet she's for saving dogs and cats though.
Jackass! 

John +Dawson 

I disagree. My environment may be different than yours though, so I can't say. I am in NY union construction and have seen the young men in The African Village, Harlem, kill each other every other day. The west side the pimps would shoot each other every other day. And in all my fights, razors, box cutters, sledge hammers and more have been used against me. No one died. They all have facial scars to remind them to be polite. There is no lesson or respect learned by the dead person. 

Jeffrey

Another example of limousine liberal hypocrisy

Jeffrey 

Blaming guns for violence is like blaming pencils for bad penmanship or eating utensils for Rosie O'Donnell being obese

John +Jeffrey

 Good comparison. Let me know when a teenager goes to a school with a dangerous #2!

November 1st, 2014:

10:21 AM

James M

“Blaming guns for violence is like blaming pencils for bad penmanship or eating utensils for Rosie O'Donnell being obese” - Jeffrey

I think it's the effect and frequency of these effects when guns are used, not the violence itself, that always begins prior to their intentional use, that really bothers people. So guns don't cause violence, of course, neither do the rocks we throw at each other. But the rocks do not tear through each others bodies at high speed in faster than a ¼ second, propelled from separated distances, by the simple convenience of holding a thing upward and pointing it. So addressing the tool used is very reason-able, if reducing the suffering associated with it, is your interest. 

Copyright Reserved. James G. Mason, 2014. JamesGMason.com

Taking Responsibility for the Bad Stuff in Society

There is a visible distinction between some people who tend to feel responsible, or who feel a shared responsibility, for the world’s, the nation’s or their community’s bad stuff that happens. From gun violence, to global climate change, to endemic chronic diabetes and obesity, some people want to continue with their lives with no guilt and thusly no responsibility. Those who read my blog know; here comes another difference between Liberals and Conservatives opinion!
 

Those not feeling responsible tend to attack the determinations of the cause by the other side. Perhaps there is no better current example of this than the wordy battle over global climate change. The opposition to the very premise that global warming and its associated climate change is caused by mankind’s carbon and other gases output, likes to state that the “jury is still out (on man made global warming).” Although essentially 98% of all scientific, peer reviewed articles, having to do with the subject agree that global warming is a man made phenomena. It could very well be that the opposition does not want to take shared responsibility, does not want to share one inkling of guilt for having polluted all their lives.

Were those who deny responsibility punished too harshly as children? Developmental psychologist Erik Erickson may have something to say about this behavior using his classic theory. Operant Conditioning is a form of learning in which the consequences of behavior produce changes in the probability that the behavior will occur, and occur again given similarities in circumstance. Similarities like taking responsibility, sharing responsibility for what effects us all.

 

This same opposition doesn’t want take responsibility for obesity or diabetes. “Its their own damn fault, not mine!” But if their child’s high school has high fructose corn syrup soda machines in its cafeteria, that’s not their fault. “Hey other parents can tell their kids to stay away, that’s all, its that simple, its not my fault, sugar Nazis!”

Gun control is another clearly defined issue which separates those willing to take responsibility for all our behavior and all of our problem, and those who want to ignore their guilt, shun their responsibility and cast blame on a different causality. Tell a gun owner he should put trigger locks on his handguns at home and he’ll tell you “I teach my kids how to shoot, they are responsible with our guns, they don’t need trigger locks!” This brilliant response both takes away responsibility and places it firmly on the shoulders of his children and attacks the causality of gun violence in the home by suggesting that it is caused, somehow, by children who have not learned “gun safety,” from their parents (“gun safety” is the code for teaching your family how to shoot the shit out of a “target.”)

The gun owner, rather than agree to most sensible suggestions of control over firearms sales and shipping, will attack using a new root cause. A favorite target is the courts and law enforcement who don’t keep criminals locked up long enough, or don’t enact the death penalty with wild abandon to scare off the criminal element. Its as if the only answer that won’t cause their guilt, won’t cause them to have to share some responsibility is to do away with justice and law and order almost completely, or change it into some kind of draconian Dark Ages justice.

Examine where your (usually) conservative opposition gets his or her causality for problems, and their reasoning for solutions (or lack of), for opposing a fix, or ignoring a problem. Notice the words form a meaning that says “no responsibility for me, no guilt. Dammit Liberal I’m sleeping good tonight!”

Also read my earlier related article titled Cognitive Dissonance Around 9/11 Questions is Understandable.